Irrefutable logic. Ultra Magnus listens carefully, his optics dimming somewhat; it isn't rude, it's purely factual. He respects Rung to know how to do his job, much in the way he expects that the therapist would respect him when it comes to enforcing laws.

So, he becomes more attentive. Datapads are ignored and Ultra Magnus folds his hands together as he gives his complete focus to Rung.

"I can't think of many occasions where I've been forced to kill my own crew," Ultra Magnus says very plainly. "My captain, especially. I can accept when they die; that is battle. That is war. Death is eventual and I've no choice but to accept that. But this was different; my enemies were comrades and my commanding officer. I..."

He exhales much more sharply. "There is one other factor. I suppose something I should confess to you."